Juma: Dragons are real, you know.
Sarah: Are they? How do you know?
Juma: Because.
Sarah: I thought they were just pretend. Is there any evidence that dragons are real? Where do they live?
Juma: They live in Africa.
Sarah: Really? I've been to Africa, but I've never seen any dragons.
Juma: They're really hard to see.
Sarah: Are they invisible?
Juma: No. They just have camouflage. Really good camouflage.
Sarah: Oh! But what do they eat?
Juma:
pause Elephants.
Sarah: Wow. Let's talk about that some more. What evidence so we have that they are real, and what evidence do we have that they are pretend?
Juma: They're real! Uh-huh, they are!
Sarah: Hmm. Well, I've never seen one in a science book. How come scientists haven't seen them?
Juma: Camouflage.
Sarah: But if scientists thought they were really real, I bet they'd try really hard to find one, so they could take pictures and study them.
Juma: They live far, far away in Africa.
Sarah: So do giraffes and lions and hippos, but we've seen all those.
Juma: They hide real good. In the grass. They have lots of little green spikes that come out all over, looks like grass.
Sarah: Then how come we haven't seen any dragon bones, like we do for dinosaurs, mammoths, horses?
Juma: They sink way down, down, down into the ground.
Sarah: Oh? How come the dinosaur fossils didn't sink way down?
Juma: The dragon bones are really, really heavy.
Sarah: If the bones are so heavy, how do they fly and walk?
Juma: Well, they're kind of heavy, and kind of light.
Sarah: I see. You know where I've seen dragons? In books of pretend stories.
Juma:
trying to please me They're just pretend.
Sarah: People talk about them in make-believe, and that's okay! It's really fun to believe in make-belief stuff, and tell stories about them. Dragons are cool in stories!
Juma: They're real.
Sarah: Well, we don't have evidence that they are. And we do have evidence that they aren't. Do you know what evidence we have that they aren't?
Juma:
shakes headSarah: Well, lots of people all over the world have stories about dragons. But in those stories, the dragons are always different. In China, in Africa, in Europe, always different. Even the dragon you told me about, it's different. That tells me the dragons are in people's imaginations. 'Cause horses? In all the stories that have horses, they're always the same. They look like the horses we know about in real life.
Juma:
slight dismayed But they're real.
Sarah: It's okay to think about dragons, honey. They're fun, aren't they?
The next day, Juma was having a conversation about dinosaurs with his cousins. He turned to me.
Juma:
to Sarah, earnestly Wait, how do we know dinosaurs are real?
Sarah: Because we can see their bones.
Juma:
satisfied Oh, right. Right. Dinosaurs are real.